Tuesday 6 September 2016

MyHeritage DNA "discoveries" - updated - again

Nov 2016 Update - MyHeritage out of beta - problems below fixed
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An email arrived from MyHeritage overnight advised me that my DNA matches had arrived for the three kits I'd uploaded there, my usual trio of DNA family guinea pigs: myself, a maternal aunt, one of my closest paternal cousins (2nd, I don't have any closer paternal relatives).

I'm shown as having 477 DNA matches listed under my Discoveries tab from the link in the email.
In comparison:
FTDNA shows me 936 matches
23andme 1719 but the bulk of those are anonymous; only 200 open sharing; 195 previously public, not yet shared with; 359 sharing)
Ancestry too many to count, the VAST majority of them very small matches, although the latter does include some known relatives I've found as a result of a tree search having found them on GEDMatch with reasonable sized segments!

Top of the MyHeritage list are the two known relatives.
Following them the top six matches showed their largest segment match as being over 30cMs, and I only recognized ONE name.
Now I'm a double junkie, dna and genie, and work with the matches on all three companies for myself and a heap of family kits.
So I was (very) surprised.*

The report seems to be ordered by shared DNA in descending order ob cMs within the overall percent (with no immediately obvious way of filtering the report or obtaining a usable summary but I've only just started looking).
More 30cMs+ segments appeared further down the list.

Comparing results with other companies:

My maternal aunt is shown on MyHeritage as
Possible relationship Aunt

Shared DNA
23.7% (1,716.9 cM)
Shared segments
40
Largest segment
109.5 cM



FamilyTreeDNA reports my aunt as
Total shared 1642.96
Largest segment 120cMs

23andme
Shared 24.3%
Shared segments 49
Largest 124 cM

Looking at the name I recognized
MyHeritage
Possible relationship 3C to 3C1R
Shared DNA
0.8% (56.1 cM)
Shared segments
3
Largest segment
31.2 cM

23andme
Shared 22%
Segments 1
Size 16cM  (Gedmatch 16.5)

Another as I scrolled well down the list for familiar names:
FTDNA
Total 45.73cMs
Largest 16.25 (1 segment)

MyHeritage
Shared DNA
0.6% (46.1 cM)
Shared segments
5
Largest segment
17.1 cM

so that's comparable between sites.

So far, this has not imbued me with confidence that this will be a useful site, but it has to be said these are early days, and on the positive side, I could simply not have noticed all those new closer matches - well close by my standards outside the known relatives recruited to test :)

I do find MyHeritage trees completely and utterly unnavigable.
At least Geni has a pedigree view, as does FamilyTreeDNA although the latter does need the DNArboretum Chrome extension to be readable
And there's always WikiTree.com with it's wonderful array of DNA focused charts.

Kitty Cooper has also blogged about MyHertiage DNA matches: http://blog.kittycooper.com/2016/09/myheritage-dna-matching-is-here/

* Updated 7th Sep 2016
I started again at the top looking at the matches I didn't recognize, searching my projects and match data for anyone who may match them (I manage several projects and manage many kits).
First 2, not recognized anywhere.
The third, supposedly a 3C to 3C1R and sharing

Shared DNA
0.8% (56.3 cM)
Shared segments
3
Largest segment
31.9 cM 

with me might be someone who matches some of my matches on 23andme but hasn't appeared in mine unless anonymous there - which they can't be as that data came from the old CoA report with segment data.
Next is the first known match above, 31cM on MyHeritage 16cM on 23andme/GEDMatch
Then 3 not found anywhere, or insufficient information to determine if the same person
Then another 3C - 3C1R

Shared DNA
0.7% (52.8 cM)
Shared segments
5
Largest segment
24.8 cM

Where a match could be found on FTDNA identified by the trees attached on both MyHeritage and FTDNA. But the match on FTDNA is to one of my distant cousins, not me.
Lowering my search criteria from 10cM to 7 brought up a kit I help with, not related to me, but still no match to me.
Next 2 couldn't find.
The next might be a 26cM match to a distant cousin of mine on FTDNA but no candidates presented themselves for me and no tree was attached to confirm the id.
Next 6 couldn't be positively identified
We're still at 20 cMs and up here.
Then a
Shared DNA
0.7% (51.4 cM)
Shared segments
3
Largest segment
25.6 cM

looked to be found on FTDNA - but again as a match to another person, not known to be related to me.
Next couldn't be found, but the next looked promising.
Shared DNA
0.7% (51.2 cM)
Shared segments
2
Largest segment
30.7 cM

Name unusual enough to be the one showing up on FTDNA as a match around 13cMs to three of my 2nd cousins. But no match to me there down to 7cMs
No tree on MyHeritage but a match on Ancestry (via GEDMatch) to one of the above cousins.

I gave up checking at this point, rather disillusioned about the discrepancies/accuracy of the "match" criteria on MyHeritage - but on the plus side, will follow up on this last match, even though only 13cM on FTDNA/16cM on GEDMatch, as anyone matching that set of 2nd cousins always shows promise to chip away at some of the brickwalls that got me into DNA testing in the first place.

** Updated 9 Sep 2016
(as I posted to the DNA Newbies list)
http://blog.myheritage.com/2016/09/dna-matching-now-live/
as saying that they're taking all data, whatever build, from whichever company, to the same base set of data, imputing the bits that they haven't received from the kit you've uploaded.
(so given a choice you should upload the one from the company with the most tested SNPs)

Surely if you've tested on all three companies, and can't find the top matches in any of your match lists, the imputations of the missing bits to this common standard for comparison of eg your FTDNA test uploaded, can't be correct if it doesn't match the values from your independent test at ancestry or 23andme.

I'll keep looking further down my "match" list to see if I get any better hit rate of recognition.









6 comments:

  1. This was very helpful to read about your experience at MyHeritage, Lorna. Did you see an ability to contact other members or do they display email addresses like gedmatch? Did you see an option to delete your DNA if one wanted to remove it?

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    1. Magda,
      Yes, there's a contact button, and a link to their tree if they have one, no email addresses.
      I've not looked to see if you can delete your DNA but I would expect that you can.
      I've logged a request to be able to input notes about each match, and to be able to filter the match list by several different criteria.
      I've not yet logged my experience about the matches not tallying with my experiences with the other three companies

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  2. I cannot find a way to delete a DNA file. I mistakenly loaded both my file and my husbands to me. I have sent a message to customer service to see if I can remove his file.

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    1. Customer service has removed the file for me. :)

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  3. myheritage.com matched me to a woman. She contacted me. We cross referenced our DNA on GEDMATCH and ancestry.com and both of those sites say we are not a match. Any idea why that is?

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    1. Basically because their imputation routines that bring the data from whatever company you tested at into line with the standard set for comparing like with like just have to need more work, at least in a lot of cases that I've looked at.
      The matches simply cannot be found in any of my matches at any of the three companies, and they cannot all be anonymous.
      Give them time.

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